tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post3227256302976119803..comments2024-03-28T03:15:52.497-04:00Comments on Duck Comics Revue: 'Stories'GeoX, one of the GeoX boys.http://www.blogger.com/profile/14658452994152399308noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-24981333821327824182017-01-14T21:55:55.937-05:002017-01-14T21:55:55.937-05:00These are more interesting observations than lame ...These are more interesting observations than lame stories like these would ever have warranted. Thanks.GeoX, one of the GeoX boys.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14658452994152399308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-8739506120360247382017-01-14T18:48:03.582-05:002017-01-14T18:48:03.582-05:00(Are we sure it's not just a coincidence that ...(Are we sure it's not just a coincidence that 'Aunt Tessie' appeared both in the 1957 'story' and in Italian comics? Considering the 'story' was never printed in Italy, it seems plausible to me that two separate writers decided to name an aunt of Goofy "Tessie" at two points in time, and Inducks saw a connection where there was none. Though Watsonianly speaking, continuity-obsessed-me is fine with imagining the two are the same character all the same, of course.)Achille Talonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11636339293230261724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-14392324962901764952017-01-14T07:46:05.416-05:002017-01-14T07:46:05.416-05:00Hey, I just noticed something (which will say some...Hey, I just noticed something (which will say something about my usual obsession with continuity, I'm afraid): <i>Halloween Hi Jinx</i> is chronologically incompatible with <i>Too Late for Christmas</i>, since both are supposed to take place the year after <i>Trick or Treat</i>.Achille Talonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11636339293230261724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-83879265740251227132012-11-03T15:25:06.790-04:002012-11-03T15:25:06.790-04:00I LOVE THOSE STORIES REVIEWS! I hope one day you w...I LOVE THOSE STORIES REVIEWS! I hope one day you will make more:)Pan Miluśhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01364446151493198587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-51457913575076527342011-01-30T08:51:34.525-05:002011-01-30T08:51:34.525-05:00Geo and David:
Bugs Bunny’s regularly recurring ...Geo and David: <br /><br />Bugs Bunny’s regularly recurring comic book witch was “The Swamp Witch”. You can see her at my Blog post for January 24, 2010:<br /><br />http://tiahblog.blogspot.com/2011/01/on-subject-of-bugs-bunny-football.html<br /><br />She did not look like the Chuck Jones animated character, and I’d suspect her name had more to do with E.C. Segar’s “The Sea Hag”, than the antagonist of “Bewitched Bunny”, etc. <br /><br />In other American Disney comics, she was indeed referred to as “The Witch”. In some late 1964 WDC&S, there was a very short-running recurring feature “Beelzebub and The Witch”, featuring the character. <br /><br />Back to Vic Lockman: There was a period (1968) where he was writing DONALD DUCK, UNCLE SCROOGE, MOBY DUCK, the duck lead and other features in WDC&S – and (it would seem) most of the new material produced by Western for Non-Disney comics. I suspect that was his tipping point into the “mediocrity” you accurately describe – and the later true decline (aided by Western’s ever-restricting guidelines).Joe Torciviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00421096229407174474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-43192880319069416932011-01-30T04:10:55.249-05:002011-01-30T04:10:55.249-05:00Looks like "Witch Hazel" was an irresist...Looks like "Witch Hazel" was an irresistible bit of wordplay to just about everyone.GeoX, one of the GeoX boys.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14658452994152399308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-19106044651068470592011-01-30T03:56:21.355-05:002011-01-30T03:56:21.355-05:00A quick note about one of the "stories":...A quick note about one of the "stories": Witch Hazel was only Witch Hazel at Western Publishing in her first appearance, at least as far as I can recall.<br /><br />After that she was anything else: The Wicked Witch (even though she wasn't wicked), Wanda Witch (...as a result, Wanda is still her name in Portuguese), even just The Witch—in stories that starred her, no less.<br /><br />Why the avoidance of "Witch Hazel"? It happened to Bugs Bunny too: he had his own Witch Hazel in his cartoons, and in Western's comics she was renamed simply "The Swamp Witch" (to the best of my knowledge; if she was ever Witch Hazel, Joe Torcivia will know!).<br /><br />I haven't verified this, but I can only imagine Western was trying to keep Little Lulu's Witch Hazel unique. Interestingly, Lulu's Hazel debuted the same year as Disney's; so if my theory is true, the editors must have decided rather quickly that Lulu's Hazel was more important.<br /><br />Disney's Hazel only reappears once in awhile, but in modern times, it's nice to be able to name her correctly when she does show up.ramapithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01751343744514656549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-27466081061400280892011-01-29T20:37:33.363-05:002011-01-29T20:37:33.363-05:00I'll bet you could write a really fascinating ...I'll bet you could write a really fascinating book about Western/Disney history.<br /><br />Maybe the problem is that I'm mainly familiar with Lockman's later work--when it seemed like he was more-or-less singlehandedly writing the Donald Duck book. Most of this stuff I find not so much <i>horrible</i> as consistently, leadenly mediocre--which is actually <i>worse</i> in some ways than out-and-out <i>horrible;</i> give me spectacular failure over dispiriting mediocrity any day. I also associate him with awful gimmick characters (the friggin' Beagle Brats) and crossovers. But a fuller discussion of this is for another day, or two.GeoX, one of the GeoX boys.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14658452994152399308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-21578125182954128732011-01-29T10:13:43.392-05:002011-01-29T10:13:43.392-05:00Geo:
When it comes to Western Publishing, there ...Geo: <br /><br />When it comes to Western Publishing, there is no “hard evidence” on many things! I’ve spent the last 30 years piecing together whatever knowledge I’ve amassed by people’s memories, opinions, and conjecture. And, even in all that time, I’m still learning new things. Call it “Publishing Archeology”! <br /><br />Most persons involved are gone, and can no longer be questioned, alas. <br /><br />But, it certainly stands to reason that Western filled its text page requirement with material culled from its Little Golden Books operation. While other publishers employed crime and adventure fiction, educational pieces, and eventually letter columns, Harvey, as Chris pointed out, created its own original material of this sort, but recycled it over and over. <br /><br />All I can offer in support of my theory is that the Western’s texts certainly READ like Little Golden Books – and the support structure for this was probably “right down the hall”, ready for use. <br /><br />Western’s “Big Little Books” of the sixties employed many of the same writers as did the comics – Fallberg and Christensen, for instance. Those books actually carried writer’s credits, so that can be taken as fact. What we will never know is whether those same comic book scribes doubled on the texts, or writers from a different stable were employed. <br /><br />As for Vic Lockman, I’m expecting an interesting column from you, even if we differ in opinion – and that’s why I enjoy your Blog in general! It’s always interesting! <br /><br />I appreciate Lockman more for the UNIQUENESS of his style, the alliteration, and other odd conventions, than for the plots themselves. I really went all out to mimic that in the Gyro story I dialogued in UNCLE SCROOGE # 362! Those at Gemstone familiar with his style agreed. <br /><br />Lockman was actually quite good until the late sixties. Then, due to too much work, burnout, or some other factors (I'm assuming), he went into severe decline. <br /><br />His lead story in THE JETSONS # 2 was possibly the best of that series. “Trapped in Time”, a standout, 4-chapter, 1967 Mickey Mouse serial, was THE best such entry of its time. <br /><br />I look forward to your post on Lockman, and have very much enjoyed this look at “Stories”. <br /><br />Joe T.Joe Torciviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00421096229407174474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-84527762126712057512011-01-29T04:16:15.159-05:002011-01-29T04:16:15.159-05:00Well, sure, these stories aren't hard to mock,...Well, sure, these stories aren't hard to mock, but I would note that this blog has a proud history of going for the <a href="http://duckcomicsrevue.blogspot.com/2010/05/flying-horse.html" rel="nofollow">easy</a> <a href="http://duckcomicsrevue.blogspot.com/2010/07/daisy-ducks-diary.html" rel="nofollow">targets.</a><br /><br />No, I don't think they were <i>actually</i> written by the custodial staff, but whoever <i>did</i>…well, didn't do a good job, to put it mildly. I like the theory that this could be spillover from Little Golden Books standards (is there any hard evidence for this?), but the idea that little kids need their reading matter dumbed down to this extent is...well, pretty insulting to little kids, honestly. Hey, I'm not particularly <i>condemning</i> anyone here; the parties involved were obviously just trying to fulfill a ridiculous bureaucratic rule as efficiently as they could. But however you look at it, the results weren't pretty. In any case, I apologize if the entry seemed unnecessarily condescending.<br /><br />For the future, however, let me just say this: I'm pretty certain that you are going to take <i>great exception</i> to my eventual entry on Vic Lockman, whenever I get around to writing it.GeoX, one of the GeoX boys.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14658452994152399308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-79605366343111901702011-01-29T03:40:03.347-05:002011-01-29T03:40:03.347-05:00Geo:
Let’s be honest here, you’ve picked a “clay ...Geo:<br /><br />Let’s be honest here, you’ve picked a “clay pigeon” or “barrel-bound fish” to take aim at. I’ve been party to decades of discussions about these comics we love, and have read as many accounts as I can possibly find, and nowhere in that reading, nor in any exchange I’ve been a part of – with professionals of the Gold and Silver Ages, professionals of today, or with fans and readers of ANY age – have I ever found “love” for these text stories. <br /><br />Nor, honestly, have I found noticeable animosity or dislike. Mostly, as I did as a young reader, everyone ignored ‘em! <br /><br />We know WHY they were there. Postal regs. And a greater insight as to the reasons they “read” as they did was most likely that Western was also the publisher of Little Golden Books – and I suspect this was an early example of media cross-pollination. <br /><br />Where you do cross the line into unfairness is when you write: <br /><br />“I guess you probably can't blame the anonymous (for which I'm sure they were grateful!) writers, really; I imagine that the job of cranking them out was foisted onto the janitors or something,…”<br /><br />I’m certain that the editorial guidelines of the Little Golden Books were “foisted” onto those WRITERS (not “janitors”) – and with those guidelines being of a more juvenile bent than the comics that surrounded them – even those comics that were lesser efforts than those of Carl Barks – they must have made the best of the situation. <br /><br />There were many great unsung writers at Western: Carl Fallberg, Don R. Christensen (a friend of mine in his later life), Del Connell, Bob Ogle (who wrote cartoons for Chuck Jones at MGM), Vic Lockman, Bob Gregory (who should have stuck to writing and never put pencil to drawing board), Mark Evanier, and even the great Michael Maltese – which means that both my “heroes” Barks and Maltese wrote for Western Publishing. No doubt I’ve left dozens off this informal list. <br /><br />Maybe some of them contributed to these text stories. Maybe not, but I can’t imagine they didn’t pull SOME double duty. <br /><br />And, love ‘em, hate ‘em, or just ignore ‘em… at least the Text Stories allowed for “spot illustrations” by artists like Tony Strobl and Paul Murry. I’d always give at least a glance at the illustration – often of a character or characters you didn’t often see in the main comic stories – even if I never read a word of ‘em. <br /><br />Joe T.Joe Torciviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00421096229407174474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-20941713329292604992011-01-28T20:55:58.835-05:002011-01-28T20:55:58.835-05:00For "character," read "charter.&quo...For "character," read "charter."GeoX, one of the GeoX boys.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14658452994152399308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-52770816615374124572011-01-28T20:55:35.373-05:002011-01-28T20:55:35.373-05:00Ha--I actually have a scan of one of those "H...Ha--I actually have a scan of one of those "Hollywood Chatter" bits right here. A baffling mixture of what I take to be genuine bits of gossip (many of which involve totally-forgotten celebrities) and made-up stuff involving Disney characters. Fortunately, since it's not Duck-centric it doesn't fit in this blog's character, and I feel no obligation to pursue it further.GeoX, one of the GeoX boys.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14658452994152399308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-2377588254984095822011-01-28T16:20:12.435-05:002011-01-28T16:20:12.435-05:00Geo,
At least Western tried to produce new prose ...Geo,<br /><br />At least Western tried to produce new prose stories on a fairly regular basis. Harvey, on the other hand, rotated its prose stories ruthlessly. God only knows how often I saw "Richie Rich and the Bread Line."<br /><br />So, when can we expect the exegesis of "Minnie's Hollywood Chatter"?<br /><br />ChrisChris Barathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06845538037091279990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-72774916151892407702011-01-27T22:05:37.803-05:002011-01-27T22:05:37.803-05:00If everyone weren't shrieking all the time, we...If everyone weren't shrieking all the time, we wouldn't be able to perceive the full measure of how awesome it all is. Alternatively, the writer took Disney's "all exclamation points, all the time" mandate literally and assumed that that's just naturally how this sort of dialogue would translate into prose.GeoX, one of the GeoX boys.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14658452994152399308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5423579092779163824.post-88406334450206994472011-01-27T21:17:43.803-05:002011-01-27T21:17:43.803-05:00The description in the second story uses a much hi...The description in the second story uses a much higher level of intensity than is called for: the ducks "scream" and "shriek" their dialogue. How...dramatic.<br /><br />SKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com